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Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.25 09:00:00 - [1] I would be happy with a more interesting presentation of missions. It is not a solution to put all L3 and L4 Agents into lowsec. This will by no means help the situation. How about Missions start out as an event. In the News a message appears that a larger number of drones was reported in constellation XYZ. This is a kind of semi event with possible escalations. Example how it would play out: The news can be read, maybe even as a special announcement in a Mission Runner Channel. Event Agents appear in the same constellation. These Event Agents give at first only low level Missions of scouting type to check various Deadspace Sites for Drone Activity. The script checks how many people run these missions, how successful they were etc. after a while the Focus shifts to more and more combat missions. If Missionrunners lose interest during this time and not enough missions are done, then Rogue Drones start to appear near the Stations, in the Belts etc. But if the Mission Runners successfully quell the Threat of Rogue Drones, the Number of Drone Mission Agents decreases again. In the end the Event is concluded in the way that a bookmark is to a previously Hidden Complex is supplied to each Mission Runner who helped in taking out Rogue Drones. This Plex should be of a fairly High Level with a Rogue Drone Mother or something of the equivalent as a final Boss, that also drops some interesting loot (enough parts to build a batch of augmented drones for example). Once the Boss has been destroyed, the event is over. The Complex dissappears and the Event Agents stop to hand out Missions and dissappear. After a few days or weeks another Mission Event starts in a different location. In a similar way could be Angel, Sansha, Serpentis etc. Missions be created. The competition would be between Missionrunners and a slowly decreasing number of Missions and of course about the Loot at the end of the Complex. I would also place the majority of the Missions in Highsec and only move some of the Missions into Lowsec. This way Missions would also affect the rest of the universe. The main difficulty would be, that a system that automatically generates such missions would be a lot of work and I think many pilots would scream, that this is Everquest in Space or something like that.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.25 10:34:00 - [2] EVE is a PvP game and yes it is a Multiplayer game and it is also sandbox game. I personally think many people get the idea of the sandbox game wrong, because they tell others how the play the game. Just moving L4 to lowsec will not solve your target problem, because people will either quit or adapt in a way, that you will also not like and then you will cry for another nerf.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.25 11:45:00 - [3] Edited by: Deviana Sevidon on 25/08/2008 11:45:27 Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Well, the "target problem" for me is that high sec mission running pays too much and needs rewards brought down to a balanced level. Nerfing rewards of high sec mission running seems to be the best way of accomplishing this goal. It is not. The problem are not the L4 Missions. The problem is, that you have in your mind an opinion how this game should be played and everyone does not agree to your opinion should be nerfed until they see the error of their way. The real factor is, they will never play the game as you want them to. No cry for nerfs, no boost of lowsec. This fact would not even change if the local pirates would greet mission runners with cold beer and candy instead of antimatter.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.25 14:04:00 - [4] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette What? How the hell do you know what I want or how I think? I said, the problem for ME - meaning as I SEE IT - is that high sec has too big rewards in contrast to the risk taken. This I see as an imbalance. That's why I want it nerfed. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME WANTING ANYONE TO PLAY LIKE I DO. I run missions in high sec. Why the hell would I want them nerfed if I want everyone to run missions in high sec? No, you are just suffering from the common delusion that everyone that wants high sec missions nerfed just wants to gank you in low sec. SNAP OUT OF IT! THAT'S NOT WHY WE WANT THIS NERF! Shh, It is alright you do not have to scream. The fact is I have lived in 0.0 and in Empire. I have done L4 Missions, Ratting, Mining, Complexes and I have shot at targets in Lowsec as well as 0.0. I know what I am talking about. The whole concept of risk vs. reward is flawed from start. In reality it was always more like effort vs. reward. Until a year ago, owning certain T2 BPO was practically a license to print isk? Where was the risk in that. If you are in a real big 0.0 alliance, with more capital ships then all your concurrents combined and you have secured the most profitable moons, then reward also far outweighs the risk. People always played the game in a way to maximise reward and minimising the risk. To come back to L4. The missions do not have much risk, but also the reward is at best mediocre if you do not have Multi-Billion ISK Ship. There are lots of activities in EVE that are a lot more profitable. If you cannot see them and continue to repeat the flawed argument of risk vs. reward, then nothing can help you. Please leave the game and whine on the Funcom Boards. Thank you.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.25 15:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Seems you haven't been following this debate. You might understand why I feel the need to raise my voice (type in caps) when the arguments you present have been answered and countered dozens of times of the course of these threads. You have brought nothing new to the table, but simply rehash the same stupid arguments posted again and again. The quoted post is so full of factual errors it would take me two or three posts to correct them all. Instead I'm going to take the lazy route and simply ask you to READ THE GOD DAMNED THREADS you nit wit! 15 Pages of whines in a forum that is full of whines and you have not responded to a single argument and instead called me a nitwit, because I have not read all of these whines. Ok, I think it is safe to call you a troll. Have you considered a therapy for your problems with anger managment?

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